Herbert Sanby and his pigeons - Walkley Sheffield August 1942

 I have managed to resolve this after quite a long time. The problem was that there were three Herbert Sanby's in my family tree - one was born in 1892 the next in 1912 and the last, four years later in 1916.

The one born in 1892 was my great grandfathers nephew and he had a son also called Herbert in 1916.

The one born in 1912 was the son of Walter Sanby born 1886 (also my great grandfathers nephew), who was the older brother of Herbert born 1892.

But the reason for sorting this out was that in August 1942 Herbert Sanby was prosecuted for buying beans for pigeon food without surrendering the appropriate ration documents. It appears he bought a quarter of a ton of beans for the sum of £8 5s (abt £272GBP ay todays prices)    

It is inferred in the report that this was one of the first of many prosecutions that were going to be initiated by the authorities for breaching the rationing regulations. He was found guilty and fined £4 (abt. £130GBP at todays prices). Seems a bit steep to me.

But going back to the beginning of the article I did not know which of the three Herbert's was prosecuted - my only lead was that Herbert lived on Walkley Road. But I have just come across a probate record from January 1960 and it confirms that it was the Herbert born in 1892 my great grandfathers nephew who was the miscreant and not the other two.

His estate was just over £6000GBP 

    

    

What Happened To Lady Jones? - Whirlow Brook Hall, Sheffield 1946 - An update

Quite a few years ago I posted an article to the site that related to the sale of Whirlow Brook Hall to Sheffield City Council. As the headline stated at the time Sheffield Corporation bought Whirlow Brook and nearly forty acres of grounds for £15,000 which in current values amounts to circa £440,000. But the bulk of the purchase was financed by grants from Trusts leaving the Corporation to find a mere £1500 (£44,000). Surely it must have been one of the most astute pieces of municipal acquisition that the Corporation has ever managed. The seller was Sir Walter Benton Jones a prominent industrialist.

The one problem that needed to be resolved was the removal of Sir Walter Benton Jones's late wife Dame Lily Marguerite Jones who was buried in the gardens of the Hall eight years earlier.

The exhumation must have occurred before the sale went through but for years I was unable to ascertain where Lady Jones was re-interred. This week purely by chance I had another attempt and was fortunate to locate her final resting place

The excellent Find A Grave site carried an entry for St Andrews Churchyard in Irnham in Lincolnshire 

Name: Lily Marguerite Jones
Birth Date: Apr 1879 Birth Place: Sheffield England
Death Date: Sep 1938 age 59
Death Place: Irnham, South Kesteven District, Lincolnshire, England
Cemetery: St Andrew Churchyard Burial or Cremation Place: Irnham, South Kesteven District, Lincolnshire, England
Spouse: Walter Benton Jones

This is the inscription on the grave. 

IN THIS DEDICATED GRAVE IN THE GARDEN IN WHICH SHE 

LOVED AND IN WHICH SHE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF 

HER LIFE LIES THE BODY OF 

LILY MARGUERITE

BELOVED WIFE OF WALTER BENTON JONES

BORN APRIL 1879 DIED SEPTEMBER 1938

SHE ENDURED MUCH SUFFERING WITH GREAT COURAGE

AND ACQUIRED A SINGLENESS OF MIND THAT

 ENDEARED HER TO ALL

BLESSED ARE THE PURE IN HEART FOR THEY SHALL SEE GOD

What I believe happened is that this memorial was in place over her initial resting place at Whirlow Brook Hall because "it was in the garden in which she loved and in which she spent a great deal of her life." When he body was exhumed from the garden in 1946 it was re-interred in the graveyard at St Andrew Churchyard Irnham, South Kesteven District, Lincolnshire, England. Irnham Hall was the home of her husband's family and she was finally laid to rest there. 

The memorial from Whirlow Brook Hall also accompanied her on her final journey.  

 

A New Year Query - Maria Laycock

 Yesterday I received an email titled "Maria Laycock" that stated

"Hi Chris

I read with interest this piece on Maria just found out she was a family member I have had her mourning card a long while and a piece of paper came to light that my dad had written on about past  family members with dates of birth and death like you no one mentioned the murders.

I wondered if there was a picture of Maria I have a lot of old family photos  but a lot have no names on. I am thinking one of Marias siblings must have married into our family do you know how many she had.

I think I might be related to you as one of the names that is on the list is a David Hornby born 1834-   13-12-1907.Here are some other names

Charles Weaver  Alfred Harry McCormack  s

Sgt C Wheeler Elizabeth Wilson nee Oates John Oates

Sgt Sidney Albert Taylor Ann Karson wife of Tom Mary Stevenson William Stevenson

Thomas Stevenson Catherine Colton Henry Colton John Alfred McCormack

Charlotte Pearson wife Sam Pearson Annie Pearson

Do any of these appear in your family tree I am on a laptop so I only look daily"

I replied

"I am a bit confused - is it the Maria Laycock I refer to in my article on The White Croft Murders 1884

https://www.chrishobbs.com/laycockmurder1884.htm

If so I can say that I have no photo of Maria and I am not related in any way to the Laycock family. None of the names you list are in my family tree as far as I can see. I have a database of names etc and none of those names you appear on it"

But the problem appeared soon after I replied. my mail was returned with the messgae

"Address not found

Your message wasn't delivered to outlook_049F1A600CED0E51@outlook.com because the address couldn't be found or is unable to receive email."

The person who sent me the email was unable to receive my reply because their email client was incorrectly set up to receive mails . It does happen on occasion and there is no way I can reply and so the sender will think that I have ignored their request which is not the case.

If anyone can find me a solution to this communication problem please let me know